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Wieder eine Fundsache aus dem NACboard: Es gibt in Suedafrika eine Kirche "Twelve Apostles' Church In Christ (TACC)", welche praktisch das selbe Glaubensbekenntnis wie die NAK hat (der 10. GA ist in der alten Fassung). Auf der Hauptseite ist ein "Chief apostle Carl Georg(e) Klibbe" erwaehnt, was eine fruehere Verbindung zur heutigen Neuapostolischen Kirche nahelegt. Jemand aus dieser Kirche TACC wollte offensichtlich ihre Existenz im NACboard bekannt machen.

Zitat von "m": The Apostolic churches in S.A had so many splinters over the years, each group claiming they are the way and the truth to God our father.

Die Geschichte sowohl der NAC als auch ihrer Splitterkirchen in Suedafrika ist ziemlich verwickelt und wird mitunter recht unterschiedlich berichtet.

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Hinweis aus dem NACboard auf historische Veroeffentlichungen zum Nachlesen im Internet:

http://www.esnips.com/web/NewApostolicC ... lications/

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Auf den Seiten der NAC U.S.A. ist auch ein Kapitel "Doctrine and Knowledge mit OF-Artikeln der letzten Jahre zu finden.

I agree with morse2000 that the website should be named Kolb.com or NAC-USA-Apostles.com. The website is very dull and there is not much creativity there at all. The local congregations flavor has been eliminated and the cookie cutter approach to the website is very dull and boring. The best thing about the old website was the ability of the local congregations to put into their own words and pictures - the activities (divine services, picnics, sunday school, youth, seniors, easter, christmas, vacation bible school and yes even those local stories that capture the life of the congregation)... that is what is missing... so maybe Kolb.com or NAC-USA-Apostles.com would more reflect the website as it currently exists.... IMHO....

-- Vapour123 im NACboard

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Der folgende Abschnitt aus einem Beitrag ist mir in die Augen gefallen.

As for my view of the NAC worldwide, you are somewhat right in that it is my opinion of what I have seen and read about the current events of the NAC. How do you see the state of the NAC in Africa, in light of the ChAp's comments about trying to hold onto what we have. The Blankenese fiasco, the Drave report, claims of nepotism, etc,etc,... help explain the Europe view. As for the US, I know, first hand, at least a dozen ministers and many members throughout the country that have left in the recent past. Many more that I have heard about that I don't really know. I recently talked to a person that recently left, when he went to a new church in the area he said that he was shocked by the number of ex-nac/current "members" that he ran into. Your excitement and experiences, thankfulness, etc, etc... may be waxing but I don't think that you can really, honestly say the same for the NAC as a whole.
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there are certain experiences which are cyrstallized within my memory of the nac experience. i recalled one as i read:

For me, the NAC had no place in my future once I understood the concept of BoB's. This is/was the single most destructive concept within the "church".

ahhh, the BoB concept. thank you, for not saying "minister", as is now in nac vogue. a "minister", is a servant or representative, beholden to service to the organization (and its members). but the BoB concept turns the tables, and makes the organization (and its members) beholden to the BoB. interesting, eh???

the culmination of the BoB power was made clear, while i sat in divine services and it was stated that a (northeast usa) apostle declared, " I AM YOUR BIBLE!" the point was that individual human biblical efforts and prayer would be of no avail, lest it be via that which an apostle (and hence BoB) would proclaim!
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Der Begriff des "Geistlichen" statt des "Segenstraegers" ist hier noch nicht so verinnerlicht worden, oder?

Glossar: BoB = bearer of blessing (Bearer of Blessing?)

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National Day of Prayer - da war doch was?

BatP stellt hinterher im NACboard fest:

5/7/2009

...boy, it really snuck by this year, huh?

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Der Begriff des "Geistlichen" statt des "Segenstraegers" ist hier noch nicht so verinnerlicht worden, oder?

wohl deshalb nicht, weil "minister" in der nak deutschland eher als "amtstraeger" übersetzt werden wuerde.

mfg, _

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Die "Our Family" berichtet: Die kanadische Jugend von Vancouver kocht fuer Wohnsitzlose vor Ort:

Click! (zum NACboard)

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Aus dem NACboard Seite 3:

I wish to commend Bishop James Fendt for stepping beyond the exclusive bounds of the NAC Church doctrine (which he vowed to uphold when he was ordained ) and accept a position on the Board of Directors for a Catholic High School!

I also wish to congratulate NAKI for permitting the New Apostolic Bishop to participate in what can be considered an ecumenical activity with another denomination's educators whose mission statement includes teaching the Catholic faith. ( http://www.holycrosshs.or...ite/hosting/mission.html ) It is also incredible that our church leadership would condone the Bishop's activity given that the Catholic Church's support of their Supreme Pontif (the Pope) negates the authority of James Fendt's church's supreme authority -- the Chief Apostle.

Kudos also to Holy Cross High School for appointing to their board a Bishop from another church that does not recognize Catholics ( or any of their other non-NAC students) as being Children of God.

Truly, this IS ecumenicism in action!!!!!!!!!!

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Den Stammapostelgottesdienst an Pfingsten kann man per web browser im Internet ansehen:

Per the NAC USA Site:

The Chief Apostle Pentecost Service, originating from Chicago, Illinois, can be viewed with a web browser. A link will be posted here on Pentecost Sunday, May 31, 2009. System requirements will be posted by Tuesday May 26, 2009.
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"Ed Banger" persifliert:

Flowers are to be no higher than the T.V.

Water glass, chalise and bible are to be on the T.V. stand 30 minutes prior to service

Ifin you have to get up outta the recliner to use the rest room, do not return to the den until the choir sings.

Ah, the memories ...

Die Warnung, dass der Server vielleicht unter der Last der Anfragen in die Knie geht, fehlt hier (im Gegensatz zurAnkuendigung auf den EJT-Seiten, dass ein lokaler TV-Sender sein Programm vom EJT im Internet anbietet). Es gibt immerhin etliche (Bsp.) kommerzielle Anbieter (Bsp.), die auch solchen Aufgaben gewachsen sind.

"Trike Troll" hat ebenfalls an einen Ausfall der Uebertragung gedacht:

So who's gonna hold service if the signal goes out?

House priest/priestess will carry on....with 1-4-5